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Salz, Rich

Does anyone want to speak up for the requirement that we continue to support BEOS (apparently B/1 and R5?), OS/2, or pre-Windows MSDOS?

 

Unless there is strong interest and commitment, we will drop these after 1.0.2

 

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Andy Polyakov-2
> Does anyone want to speak up for the requirement that we continue to
> support BEOS (apparently B/1 and R5?), OS/2, or pre-Windows MSDOS?

Minor clarification is appropriate. MSDOS is supported in single
"stance", namely DJGPP, which is 32-bit environment. 16-bit code was
never supported by OpenSSL, not under Windows nor real MSDOS. Even if
there are some residual references to 16 bits, they were never made to
work together, and since a while back are being removed on
if-ran-into-when-fixing-something-in-that-area basis.
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Salz, Rich
> Minor clarification is appropriate. MSDOS is supported in single "stance",
> namely DJGPP, which is 32-bit environment.

Good point.

So the idea is that MSDOS gets turned into DJGPP.  BEOS and OS/2 are removed in HEAD (i.e., after 1.0.2), and Microsoft means WINDOWS of various flavors.

If this is a problem for anyone, please speak up now.
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Jeffrey Walton-3
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Salz, Rich <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Minor clarification is appropriate. MSDOS is supported in single "stance",
>> namely DJGPP, which is 32-bit environment.
>
> Good point.
>
> So the idea is that MSDOS gets turned into DJGPP.  BEOS and OS/2 are removed in HEAD (i.e., after 1.0.2), and Microsoft means WINDOWS of various flavors.
>
What exactly does Windows mean? Is that the GUI version of Windows
from 1995 on? Does it include Windows NT 4.0 and perhaps 3.5 (I think
3.5 included Winsock)?

Looking forward, does it include Windows RT? Windows RT is a real
bastard case - it does not provide access to the raw socket APIs from
C/C++ (unlike Windows 8 and Windows Phone). RT provides managed access
to sockets via System.Net.Sockets namespace.

Forgive my ignorance, Rich.

Jeff
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Salz, Rich
I'm not sure what WINDOWS means. And I'm not sure MSFT knows either :)

Less flippantly, the goal is that OPENSSL_SYS_WINDOWS means any Windows platform, and then there are subtypes within that.  We'll figure it out as we  go along.  It's gonna take a while to clean up the #ifdef world without breaking folks, but we're trying to address it per our roadmap, https://www.openssl.org/about/roadmap.html .

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Lewis Rosenthal
Hi, all...

Just a quick follow-up from an OpenSSL user on OS/2, running a current
Apache server hosting several SSL sites, concerning dropping OS/2 as an
officially-supported platform: Please don't. :-)

We do have a couple people maintaining the OS/2 builds, and if all that is
required to push changes upstream is to contact the right people, I'm sure
we can do that.

Rich, what needs to be done to see that OS/2 does not get removed from HEAD?

TIA

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Salz, Rich
Thanks for the note.  Seems like there's enough support to keep it around :)

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Lewis Rosenthal
On 08/31/14 01:15 am, Salz, Rich thus wrote :
> Thanks for the note.  Seems like there's enough support to keep it around :)
>
Much appreciated!

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Re: Platform query

Tim Hudson
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On 31/08/2014 3:02 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
> Rich, what needs to be done to see that OS/2 does not get removed from HEAD?

Can someone provide an OS/2 build environment for team members?

Thanks,
Tim.

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Lewis Rosenthal
Hi, Tim...

On 09/01/2014 04:45 PM, Tim Hudson wrote:
> On 31/08/2014 3:02 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
>> Rich, what needs to be done to see that OS/2 does not get removed from HEAD?
> Can someone provide an OS/2 build environment for team members?
>
Well, that's kind of a loaded question, but here are some starting links:

http://trac.netlabs.org/libc
http://trac.netlabs.org/kbuild
http://trac.netlabs.org/rpm

Also, Paul Smedley (who currently maintains the most popular Apache
fork, and other things which rely on OpenSSL) has his own build environment:

http://os2ports.smedley.id.au/
http://os2ports.smedley.id.au/index.php?page=BuildEnvDVD

and:

GNU Ports (on OS/2) mailing list archives (subscription info available):
http://mail.2rosenthals.com:8100/Lists/gnuports/List.html

One of our regular porters (who subscribes to the mailing list, above)
mentioned a build bot. I'd be happy to make that happen on one of my
servers, with some pointers as to what may be needed.

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