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Can't to find .so libraries

Johnny Gonzalez
Hello everybody,

Can anyone tell me where can I find a library I need?
I need the libncipher.so library, but I can't find it.
Where should I look for it?

Thanks a lot,
Johnny


               
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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[hidden email]> on Mon, 8 Aug 2005 20:32:09 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:

johnnygonzalezl> Can anyone tell me where can I find a library I need?
johnnygonzalezl> I need the libncipher.so library, but I can't find
johnnygonzalezl> it.  Where should I look for it?

You get it from your hardware vendor, nCipher.

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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

Johnny Gonzalez
Hello Richard,

I thought I only needed to download it somewhere in
openssl sources or compile it and generate it. For
example in:
openssl-0.9.7-stable-SNAP-20050801/crypto/engine/

I found these files:
hw_ncipher.c
hw_ncipher_err.h
hw_ncipher_err.c

Can I generate the lib (.so) using these files? or are
them for other tasks?

Thanks a lot,
Johnny

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> johnnygonzalezl> Can anyone tell me where can I find
> a library I need?
> johnnygonzalezl> I need the libncipher.so library,
> but I can't find
> johnnygonzalezl> it.  Where should I look for it?
>
> You get it from your hardware vendor, nCipher.
>
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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

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In message <[hidden email]> on Mon, 8 Aug 2005 22:16:13 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:

johnnygonzalezl> Hello Richard,
johnnygonzalezl>
johnnygonzalezl> I thought I only needed to download it somewhere in
johnnygonzalezl> openssl sources or compile it and generate it. For
johnnygonzalezl> example in:
johnnygonzalezl> openssl-0.9.7-stable-SNAP-20050801/crypto/engine/
johnnygonzalezl>
johnnygonzalezl> I found these files:
johnnygonzalezl> hw_ncipher.c
johnnygonzalezl> hw_ncipher_err.h
johnnygonzalezl> hw_ncipher_err.c
johnnygonzalezl>
johnnygonzalezl> Can I generate the lib (.so) using these files? or are
johnnygonzalezl> them for other tasks?

Ah, sorry, got mixed up.

Yeah, they are built, but with 0.9.7, they are normally built into
libcrypto.  It's different in 0.9.8, where the built-in engines
modules reside in their own directory (engines/) and are built into
individual shared libraries.

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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

Johnny Gonzalez
Hello Richard,

Thanks a lot for your answer, however I have another
question.

How can I generate them?

I tried using the last openssl-0.9.7 snapshot:
openssl-0.9.7-stable-SNAP-20050801.tar.gz

What I did was:

./config
make
make install

But no libs (.so) files were generated. So would you
mind telling me the steps I have to perform?

Thanks a lot for your patience with me ;-)
Johnny

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> johnnygonzalezl> Hello Richard,
> johnnygonzalezl>
> johnnygonzalezl> I thought I only needed to download
> it somewhere in
> johnnygonzalezl> openssl sources or compile it and
> generate it. For
> johnnygonzalezl> example in:
> johnnygonzalezl>
> openssl-0.9.7-stable-SNAP-20050801/crypto/engine/
> johnnygonzalezl>
> johnnygonzalezl> I found these files:
> johnnygonzalezl> hw_ncipher.c
> johnnygonzalezl> hw_ncipher_err.h
> johnnygonzalezl> hw_ncipher_err.c
> johnnygonzalezl>
> johnnygonzalezl> Can I generate the lib (.so) using
> these files? or are
> johnnygonzalezl> them for other tasks?
>
> Ah, sorry, got mixed up.
>
> Yeah, they are built, but with 0.9.7, they are
> normally built into
> libcrypto.  It's different in 0.9.8, where the
> built-in engines
> modules reside in their own directory (engines/) and
> are built into
> individual shared libraries.
>
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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

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In message <[hidden email]> on Tue, 9 Aug 2005 00:24:50 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:

johnnygonzalezl> Hello Richard,
johnnygonzalezl>
johnnygonzalezl> Thanks a lot for your answer, however I have another
johnnygonzalezl> question.
johnnygonzalezl>
johnnygonzalezl> How can I generate them?

You can't, or at least not easily.  And if they are already in
librcrypto.a.so, why should you bother?

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Johnny Gonzalez
Hello Richard,

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> johnnygonzalezl> Hello Richard,
> johnnygonzalezl>
> johnnygonzalezl> Thanks a lot for your answer,
> however I have another
> johnnygonzalezl> question.
> johnnygonzalezl>
> johnnygonzalezl> How can I generate them?
>
> You can't, or at least not easily.  And if they are
> already in
> librcrypto.a.so, why should you bother?

Is this the same as that I need. My whole context is
this: I have a CA software (OpenCA) which uses an HSM
(nCipher), in some docs I found that I need to tell
OpenCA config files the location of the library
(libncipher.so) so it can load it dinamically. That is
the reason I'm looking for the library. So, there's
now another question, the file you mentioned
(librcrypto.a.so) could be used instead of
libncipher.so in my CA's config files?

Thanks a lot for your help,
Johnny

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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

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In message <[hidden email]> on Tue, 9 Aug 2005 03:29:09 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:

johnnygonzalezl> Is this the same as that I need. My whole context is
johnnygonzalezl> this: I have a CA software (OpenCA) which uses an HSM
johnnygonzalezl> (nCipher), in some docs I found that I need to tell
johnnygonzalezl> OpenCA config files the location of the library
johnnygonzalezl> (libncipher.so) so it can load it dinamically.

Hmm, maybe you should ask the OpenCA folks?  They may be counting on
OpenSSL 0.9.8, which does indeed contain that shared library.

johnnygonzalezl> That is the reason I'm looking for the library. So,
johnnygonzalezl> there's now another question, the file you mentioned
johnnygonzalezl> (librcrypto.a.so) could be used instead of
johnnygonzalezl> libncipher.so in my CA's config files?

libcrypto.a/libcrypto.so (not librcrypto.so, I misspelled) is one of
the two standard OpenSSL libraries (the other is libssl.a/libssl.so).

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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

Johnny Gonzalez
Hello Richard,

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> Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:
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> johnnygonzalezl> Is this the same as that I need. My
> whole context is
> johnnygonzalezl> this: I have a CA software (OpenCA)
> which uses an HSM
> johnnygonzalezl> (nCipher), in some docs I found
> that I need to tell
> johnnygonzalezl> OpenCA config files the location of
> the library
> johnnygonzalezl> (libncipher.so) so it can load it
> dinamically.
>
> Hmm, maybe you should ask the OpenCA folks?  They
> may be counting on
> OpenSSL 0.9.8, which does indeed contain that shared
> library.

so OpenSSL 0.9.8 has the library? I downloaded it but
I didn't find it :-(

>
> johnnygonzalezl> That is the reason I'm looking for
> the library. So,
> johnnygonzalezl> there's now another question, the
> file you mentioned
> johnnygonzalezl> (librcrypto.a.so) could be used
> instead of
> johnnygonzalezl> libncipher.so in my CA's config
> files?
>
> libcrypto.a/libcrypto.so (not librcrypto.so, I
> misspelled) is one of
> the two standard OpenSSL libraries (the other is
> libssl.a/libssl.so).
ahh, ok,

 
>
> Cheers,
> Richard

Thanks a lot,
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In message <[hidden email]> on Tue, 9 Aug 2005 03:45:01 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:

johnnygonzalezl> > Hmm, maybe you should ask the OpenCA folks?  They
johnnygonzalezl> > may be counting on OpenSSL 0.9.8, which does indeed
johnnygonzalezl> > contain that shared library.
johnnygonzalezl>
johnnygonzalezl> so OpenSSL 0.9.8 has the library? I downloaded it but
johnnygonzalezl> I didn't find it :-(

Hmm?  It should, in the engines/ directory.

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Johnny Gonzalez
Hello Richard,

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> johnnygonzalezl> > Hmm, maybe you should ask the
> OpenCA folks?  They
> johnnygonzalezl> > may be counting on OpenSSL 0.9.8,
> which does indeed
> johnnygonzalezl> > contain that shared library.
> johnnygonzalezl>
> johnnygonzalezl> so OpenSSL 0.9.8 has the library? I
> downloaded it but
> johnnygonzalezl> I didn't find it :-(
>
> Hmm?  It should, in the engines/ directory.
Well, thanks a lot. I will check it out,

Johnny

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> johnnygonzalezl> > Hmm, maybe you should ask the
> OpenCA folks?  They
> johnnygonzalezl> > may be counting on OpenSSL 0.9.8,
> which does indeed
> johnnygonzalezl> > contain that shared library.
> johnnygonzalezl>
> johnnygonzalezl> so OpenSSL 0.9.8 has the library? I
> downloaded it but
> johnnygonzalezl> I didn't find it :-(
>
> Hmm?  It should, in the engines/ directory.
Well, I don't know if I did it wrong, but I didn't
find the libraries in the downloads I have.
I downloaded:
- openssl-0.9.8.tar.gz, untar, compile it: ./config,
make, make install, In none of these steps I found the
libraries.
Are you sure it is located there?
Which distribution should I download to have my
library?

Thanks,
Johnny

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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

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In message <[hidden email]> on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:27:23 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:

johnnygonzalezl> > Hmm?  It should, in the engines/ directory.
johnnygonzalezl> Well, I don't know if I did it wrong, but I didn't
johnnygonzalezl> find the libraries in the downloads I have.
johnnygonzalezl> I downloaded:
johnnygonzalezl> - openssl-0.9.8.tar.gz, untar, compile it: ./config,
johnnygonzalezl> make, make install, In none of these steps I found
johnnygonzalezl> the libraries.
johnnygonzalezl> Are you sure it is located there?
johnnygonzalezl> Which distribution should I download to have my
johnnygonzalezl> library?

Ah, I forgot it had changed name.  libchil.so

The reason is that nCipher actually defined an API that they thought
was going to become generally accepted.  They called it CHIL, and we
honored that by changing the internal name of the module a very long
time ago.  With 0.9.8, the shared module file name has to contain the
internal name of the module (poor mans security :-)).

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Not able to do config

biswatosh chakraborty
Hi
   I am using Solaris 9 on AMD machine and not able to do config of openssl.
It says platform not supported.
But I went to a site called blatwave.org and installed openssl package
successfully and am able to run openssl command from command prompt like:
*******************************************************************************************
bash-2.05# openssl genrsa
Generating RSA private key, 512 bit long modulus
........++++++++++++
..++++++++++++
e is 65537 (0x10001)
-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
MIIBOwIBAAJBALt8C+3jXA5gfMATcnFIuZ7SYNZjh1Q/y0E7IcEpp9v/4LjgjnwA
-----END RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
****************************************************************************************

But,as I said above,when I downloaded openssl-0.9.8, and ran ./config, it
said:

******************************************************************************************
bash-2.05# pwd
/openssl-0.9.8
bash-2.05# ./config
Operating system: i86pc-whatever-solaris2
This system (solaris-x86-sc3) is not supported. See file INSTALL for
details.
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How is it that, I am unable to build the libs but still able to use the
binaries directly?


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Re: Not able to do config

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biswatosh chakraborty writes:

> Hi
> I am using Solaris 9 on AMD machine and not able to do config of openssl.
> It says platform not supported.
> But I went to a site called blatwave.org and installed openssl package
> successfully and am able to run openssl command from command prompt like:

The one who made that package may have used a different compiler than you
did.

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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

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Hello Richard,


Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:

> In message <[hidden email]> on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:27:23 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:
>
> johnnygonzalezl> > Hmm?  It should, in the engines/ directory.
> johnnygonzalezl> Well, I don't know if I did it wrong, but I didn't
> johnnygonzalezl> find the libraries in the downloads I have.
> johnnygonzalezl> I downloaded:
> johnnygonzalezl> - openssl-0.9.8.tar.gz, untar, compile it: ./config,
> johnnygonzalezl> make, make install, In none of these steps I found
> johnnygonzalezl> the libraries.
> johnnygonzalezl> Are you sure it is located there?
> johnnygonzalezl> Which distribution should I download to have my
> johnnygonzalezl> library?
>
> Ah, I forgot it had changed name.  libchil.so
>
> The reason is that nCipher actually defined an API that they thought
> was going to become generally accepted.  They called it CHIL, and we
> honored that by changing the internal name of the module a very long
> time ago.  With 0.9.8, the shared module file name has to contain the
> internal name of the module (poor mans security :-)).

Ok, I will look for it with that name ;-)

Thanks a lot,
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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

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Hello Richard,

 --- Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
<[hidden email]> escribió:

> In message
>
<[hidden email]>

> on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:27:23 +0200 (CEST), Johnny
> Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:
>
> johnnygonzalezl> > Hmm?  It should, in the engines/
> directory.
> johnnygonzalezl> Well, I don't know if I did it
> wrong, but I didn't
> johnnygonzalezl> find the libraries in the downloads
> I have.
> johnnygonzalezl> I downloaded:
> johnnygonzalezl> - openssl-0.9.8.tar.gz, untar,
> compile it: ./config,
> johnnygonzalezl> make, make install, In none of
> these steps I found
> johnnygonzalezl> the libraries.
> johnnygonzalezl> Are you sure it is located there?
> johnnygonzalezl> Which distribution should I
> download to have my
> johnnygonzalezl> library?
>
> Ah, I forgot it had changed name.  libchil.so
>
> The reason is that nCipher actually defined an API
> that they thought
> was going to become generally accepted.  They called
> it CHIL, and we
> honored that by changing the internal name of the
> module a very long
> time ago.  With 0.9.8, the shared module file name
> has to contain the
> internal name of the module (poor mans security
> :-)).

I did this again, ./config; make; make install, but
there are no .so files in the engines directory. There
are no files there. So I entered to the directory
engines of the sources and I run this command:

gcc -shared -o libchil.so e_chil.o -L../.. -lcrypto

is this ok? I'm not quite sure, because this command
gave a libchil.so file only 24KBs big, I guess it's
too small, isn't it?

So would you mind telling me the exact options I have
to issue in my ./config to have my chil (ncipher)
library done?

Thanks a lot,
Johnny

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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

Johnny Gonzalez
Hello Richard,

I have just done it, a friend told me to add the
shared option to the config command, like this:
./config shared

And now the libraries have been installed in the
required directory (lib/engines/).

thanks a lot for your help,
Johnny

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escribió:

> Hello Richard,
>
>  --- Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
> <[hidden email]> escribió:
>
> > In message
> >
>
<[hidden email]>

> > on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:27:23 +0200 (CEST), Johnny
> > Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:
> >
> > johnnygonzalezl> > Hmm?  It should, in the
> engines/
> > directory.
> > johnnygonzalezl> Well, I don't know if I did it
> > wrong, but I didn't
> > johnnygonzalezl> find the libraries in the
> downloads
> > I have.
> > johnnygonzalezl> I downloaded:
> > johnnygonzalezl> - openssl-0.9.8.tar.gz, untar,
> > compile it: ./config,
> > johnnygonzalezl> make, make install, In none of
> > these steps I found
> > johnnygonzalezl> the libraries.
> > johnnygonzalezl> Are you sure it is located there?
> > johnnygonzalezl> Which distribution should I
> > download to have my
> > johnnygonzalezl> library?
> >
> > Ah, I forgot it had changed name.  libchil.so
> >
> > The reason is that nCipher actually defined an API
> > that they thought
> > was going to become generally accepted.  They
> called
> > it CHIL, and we
> > honored that by changing the internal name of the
> > module a very long
> > time ago.  With 0.9.8, the shared module file name
> > has to contain the
> > internal name of the module (poor mans security
> > :-)).
>
> I did this again, ./config; make; make install, but
> there are no .so files in the engines directory.
> There
> are no files there. So I entered to the directory
> engines of the sources and I run this command:
>
> gcc -shared -o libchil.so e_chil.o -L../.. -lcrypto
>
> is this ok? I'm not quite sure, because this command
> gave a libchil.so file only 24KBs big, I guess it's
> too small, isn't it?
>
> So would you mind telling me the exact options I
> have
> to issue in my ./config to have my chil (ncipher)
> library done?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Johnny
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Richard
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Re: Can't to find .so libraries

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In message <[hidden email]> on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:24:54 +0200 (CEST), Johnny Gonzalez <[hidden email]> said:

johnnygonzalezl> Hello Richard,
johnnygonzalezl>
johnnygonzalezl> I have just done it, a friend told me to add the
johnnygonzalezl> shared option to the config command, like this:
johnnygonzalezl> ./config shared

Oh, that's what was wrong!  Hmm, that's really a bug, those modules
should be built of there's shared library support, period...

I guess I've got some work cut out for myself...

Thanks!

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